Comments on: How Else Can We Interpret Recent Volume Developments as Bearish? http://blog.afraidtotrade.com/how-else-can-we-interpret-recent-volume-developments-as-bearish/ Helping traders overcome fears and emotions in trading Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:53:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: A Look at Recent Short Term Peaks in SP500 | Penny Stock Trading System Blog http://blog.afraidtotrade.com/how-else-can-we-interpret-recent-volume-developments-as-bearish/comment-page-1/#comment-211301 A Look at Recent Short Term Peaks in SP500 | Penny Stock Trading System Blog Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:32:23 +0000 http://blog.afraidtotrade.com/?p=4911#comment-211301 [...] “How Else Can We Interpret Recent Volume Developments but be Bearish?” [...] [...] “How Else Can We Interpret Recent Volume Developments but be Bearish?” [...]

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]]> By: A Look at Declining Volume on Five Prior Market Tops | Penny Stock Trading System Blog http://blog.afraidtotrade.com/how-else-can-we-interpret-recent-volume-developments-as-bearish/comment-page-1/#comment-211262 A Look at Declining Volume on Five Prior Market Tops | Penny Stock Trading System Blog Sat, 14 Nov 2009 03:19:15 +0000 http://blog.afraidtotrade.com/?p=4911#comment-211262 [...] This is a complement post to my prior “How Else Can We Interpret Recent Volume Activity but be Bearish?“. [...] [...] This is a complement post to my prior “How Else Can We Interpret Recent Volume Activity but be Bearish?“. [...]

]]> By: A Look at Declining Volume on Five Prior Market Tops | Afraid to Trade.com Blog http://blog.afraidtotrade.com/how-else-can-we-interpret-recent-volume-developments-as-bearish/comment-page-1/#comment-211252 A Look at Declining Volume on Five Prior Market Tops | Afraid to Trade.com Blog Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:58:04 +0000 http://blog.afraidtotrade.com/?p=4911#comment-211252 [...] This is a complement post to my prior “How Else Can We Interpret Recent Volume Activity but be Bearish?“. [...] [...] This is a complement post to my prior “How Else Can We Interpret Recent Volume Activity but be Bearish?“. [...]

]]> By: terlyn http://blog.afraidtotrade.com/how-else-can-we-interpret-recent-volume-developments-as-bearish/comment-page-1/#comment-213023 terlyn Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:49:47 +0000 http://blog.afraidtotrade.com/?p=4911#comment-213023 Yesterday (Nov 11) Bob Pisani on CNBC, researching the volume issue, revealed that hedge funds had exited the market at the end of October with a 30% profit. That would coincide with the test of the 50-day MVA. Some mutual funds were entering the market, but he wasn't clear to what extent. That would certainly account for the drop in volume, and would also give some clue as to what percentage of volume the hedge funds represent (if they are the only ones exiting).<br><br>I believe volume retains its importance for a bull or bear market. This rally has been a countertrend rally on no economic fundamentals except for bottom fishing and the low interest rates. That is why there has not been conviction and why it is not a bull market, in my opinion. Yesterday (Nov 11) Bob Pisani on CNBC, researching the volume issue, revealed that hedge funds had exited the market at the end of October with a 30% profit. That would coincide with the test of the 50-day MVA. Some mutual funds were entering the market, but he wasn't clear to what extent. That would certainly account for the drop in volume, and would also give some clue as to what percentage of volume the hedge funds represent (if they are the only ones exiting).

I believe volume retains its importance for a bull or bear market. This rally has been a countertrend rally on no economic fundamentals except for bottom fishing and the low interest rates. That is why there has not been conviction and why it is not a bull market, in my opinion.

]]> By: terlyn http://blog.afraidtotrade.com/how-else-can-we-interpret-recent-volume-developments-as-bearish/comment-page-1/#comment-211247 terlyn Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:49:47 +0000 http://blog.afraidtotrade.com/?p=4911#comment-211247 Yesterday (Nov 11) Bob Pisani on CNBC, researching the volume issue, revealed that hedge funds had exited the market at the end of October with a 30% profit. That would coincide with the test of the 50-day MVA. Some mutual funds were entering the market, but he wasn't clear to what extent. That would certainly account for the drop in volume, and would also give some clue as to what percentage of volume the hedge funds represent (if they are the only ones exiting).<br><br>I believe volume retains its importance for a bull or bear market. This rally has been a countertrend rally on no economic fundamentals except for bottom fishing and the low interest rates. That is why there has not been conviction and why it is not a bull market, in my opinion. Yesterday (Nov 11) Bob Pisani on CNBC, researching the volume issue, revealed that hedge funds had exited the market at the end of October with a 30% profit. That would coincide with the test of the 50-day MVA. Some mutual funds were entering the market, but he wasn't clear to what extent. That would certainly account for the drop in volume, and would also give some clue as to what percentage of volume the hedge funds represent (if they are the only ones exiting).

I believe volume retains its importance for a bull or bear market. This rally has been a countertrend rally on no economic fundamentals except for bottom fishing and the low interest rates. That is why there has not been conviction and why it is not a bull market, in my opinion.

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]]> By: blues http://blog.afraidtotrade.com/how-else-can-we-interpret-recent-volume-developments-as-bearish/comment-page-1/#comment-211239 blues Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:42:56 +0000 http://blog.afraidtotrade.com/?p=4911#comment-211239 Or better yet, is called "kill the USD" territory where nothing matters as long as USD goes down, equity goes up... carry trade on full swing... USD=New Yen and U.S.A. = Japan 2.0 Or better yet, is called “kill the USD” territory where nothing matters as long as USD goes down, equity goes up… carry trade on full swing… USD=New Yen and U.S.A. = Japan 2.0

]]> By: blues http://blog.afraidtotrade.com/how-else-can-we-interpret-recent-volume-developments-as-bearish/comment-page-1/#comment-211238 blues Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:41:31 +0000 http://blog.afraidtotrade.com/?p=4911#comment-211238 "then that is a radical departure that leaves us in uncharted territory for sure." <br><br>Ya that "uncharted territory" is call GS/government territory or better yet GS/Paulson/Geithner/Bernanky territory... “then that is a radical departure that leaves us in uncharted territory for sure.”

Ya that “uncharted territory” is call GS/government territory or better yet GS/Paulson/Geithner/Bernanky territory…

]]> By: blues http://blog.afraidtotrade.com/how-else-can-we-interpret-recent-volume-developments-as-bearish/comment-page-1/#comment-211237 blues Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:39:44 +0000 http://blog.afraidtotrade.com/?p=4911#comment-211237 Corey, I certainly hope you are right on "pre-crash" periods, please do show us that... and I certainly hope you mean we are about to crash... :P<br><br>But seriously this rise has certainly been a painful one for bears... regarding to the volume though, here are some example periods:<br><br>Aug 28th - Sept 2nd: Huge volume<br><br>Sept 3rd - Sept 10th: low volume (compare to the prior drop) and yet it triumph the prior fall. Yes the volume picked up after the 10th, but notice it actually topped... So it seems that after the huge volume fall, people were scared yet market was able to overcome that with low volume, this is the part that puzzle me the most... and when we actually overcame the Aug28-Sep2 drop people felt it was safe to get in and looking for much higher so the volume increased, but then that was actually the height of the swing and then later on all of them got slaughtered by the drop from Sept 23rd to Oct 2nd... notice one thing interesting, the drop actually stopped around the initial low volume rise from Sept 3rd to Sept 10th! So who ever bought those at low volume actually become support... you would think other way around where high volume up should've been the support... So these low volume "guys" (GS/JPM?) actually are in control of the market? Another thinking is that when people got afraid, GS/JPM (just as example, but I truely think GS/JPM are using our tax money to manipulate this market higher) actually got in and bid the market up. While bidding up the market up to a point (usually the breakout point), they squeeze the short and get "eager" long in the market and then sell into those people while they suffer.... but when it get to their (GS/JPM) initial buy point, they comes in with the money they made and bid the market up again...<br><br>Another example:<br><br>Sept 29th to Oct 2nd: huge volume down<br>Oct 5th to Oct 12th: low volume up, AGAIN, triumph high volume down... WTF?!<br><br>Same thing happend again afterward, Oct 14th to Oct 15th, squeeze those bears and eager long into market! Higher volume up day which marks the high of the swing and then Oct 21st to Oct 30th, killed all those suckers (and again huge volume)!<br><br>Now that lead to past 7-8 trading session, AGAIN, low volume triumph prior high volume sell off... Gee... talk about rinse and repeat... now are we going to see another high volume squeeze up day? If so, maybe that's going to be the top again where GS/JPM sell their share into those suckers?<br><br>I mean how else you explain (I think it was shown in Zero Hedge) that GS had like 90% (or higher?) winning ratio of late (I think it started after March)... Tell me, which group of trader have that type of trading skill (90% winning ratio) without some insider help (ie government)? Corey, I certainly hope you are right on “pre-crash” periods, please do show us that… and I certainly hope you mean we are about to crash… :P

But seriously this rise has certainly been a painful one for bears… regarding to the volume though, here are some example periods:

Aug 28th – Sept 2nd: Huge volume

Sept 3rd – Sept 10th: low volume (compare to the prior drop) and yet it triumph the prior fall. Yes the volume picked up after the 10th, but notice it actually topped… So it seems that after the huge volume fall, people were scared yet market was able to overcome that with low volume, this is the part that puzzle me the most… and when we actually overcame the Aug28-Sep2 drop people felt it was safe to get in and looking for much higher so the volume increased, but then that was actually the height of the swing and then later on all of them got slaughtered by the drop from Sept 23rd to Oct 2nd… notice one thing interesting, the drop actually stopped around the initial low volume rise from Sept 3rd to Sept 10th! So who ever bought those at low volume actually become support… you would think other way around where high volume up should've been the support… So these low volume “guys” (GS/JPM?) actually are in control of the market? Another thinking is that when people got afraid, GS/JPM (just as example, but I truely think GS/JPM are using our tax money to manipulate this market higher) actually got in and bid the market up. While bidding up the market up to a point (usually the breakout point), they squeeze the short and get “eager” long in the market and then sell into those people while they suffer…. but when it get to their (GS/JPM) initial buy point, they comes in with the money they made and bid the market up again…

Another example:

Sept 29th to Oct 2nd: huge volume down
Oct 5th to Oct 12th: low volume up, AGAIN, triumph high volume down… WTF?!

Same thing happend again afterward, Oct 14th to Oct 15th, squeeze those bears and eager long into market! Higher volume up day which marks the high of the swing and then Oct 21st to Oct 30th, killed all those suckers (and again huge volume)!

Now that lead to past 7-8 trading session, AGAIN, low volume triumph prior high volume sell off… Gee… talk about rinse and repeat… now are we going to see another high volume squeeze up day? If so, maybe that's going to be the top again where GS/JPM sell their share into those suckers?

I mean how else you explain (I think it was shown in Zero Hedge) that GS had like 90% (or higher?) winning ratio of late (I think it started after March)… Tell me, which group of trader have that type of trading skill (90% winning ratio) without some insider help (ie government)?

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