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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://blog.afraidtotrade.com/timing-entries-into-401k/comment-page-1/#comment-161333</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corey,

Glad you liked Breakpointtrades.  How can I get them in contact with you.  Do you have an email you could send me.  I&#039;ll pass it along to Matt/Steve.  I&#039;m thinking you both could help each other out however going to let you too work this out etc.

Let me know

Thanks
Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corey,</p>
<p>Glad you liked Breakpointtrades.  How can I get them in contact with you.  Do you have an email you could send me.  I&#8217;ll pass it along to Matt/Steve.  I&#8217;m thinking you both could help each other out however going to let you too work this out etc.</p>
<p>Let me know</p>
<p>Thanks<br />
Chris</p>
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		<title>By: Corey Rosenbloom</title>
		<link>http://blog.afraidtotrade.com/timing-entries-into-401k/comment-page-1/#comment-161332</link>
		<dc:creator>Corey Rosenbloom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Rene,

I added your link into the post text to broaden the discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Rene,</p>
<p>I added your link into the post text to broaden the discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Corey Rosenbloom</title>
		<link>http://blog.afraidtotrade.com/timing-entries-into-401k/comment-page-1/#comment-161314</link>
		<dc:creator>Corey Rosenbloom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lam,

There are both simple and complex strategies for timing the market but I find simple ones work the best.  

Noticing the above chart, one could use the simplest method which looks at swing highs and swing lows (trend confirmation) and then confirms that perhaps with a moving average crossover/orientation method.  There have been stable moves up, down, up, and down over the last 11 years and I would suspect the pattern would be effective going forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lam,</p>
<p>There are both simple and complex strategies for timing the market but I find simple ones work the best.  </p>
<p>Noticing the above chart, one could use the simplest method which looks at swing highs and swing lows (trend confirmation) and then confirms that perhaps with a moving average crossover/orientation method.  There have been stable moves up, down, up, and down over the last 11 years and I would suspect the pattern would be effective going forward.</p>
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		<title>By: Corey Rosenbloom</title>
		<link>http://blog.afraidtotrade.com/timing-entries-into-401k/comment-page-1/#comment-161312</link>
		<dc:creator>Corey Rosenbloom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

I checked out their site and I love it!  It&#039;s so detailed (I browsed a couple of past newsletters) and they&#039;re so thorough - you really don&#039;t see that kind of thoroughness outside of large institutions.  

I&#039;d love to learn more about them and perhaps how they got to where they are/background. 

Thank you for passing along the information!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>I checked out their site and I love it!  It&#8217;s so detailed (I browsed a couple of past newsletters) and they&#8217;re so thorough &#8211; you really don&#8217;t see that kind of thoroughness outside of large institutions.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to learn more about them and perhaps how they got to where they are/background. </p>
<p>Thank you for passing along the information!</p>
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		<title>By: Lam</title>
		<link>http://blog.afraidtotrade.com/timing-entries-into-401k/comment-page-1/#comment-161230</link>
		<dc:creator>Lam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 13:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corey,

Very nice post, I realized this a few years back and had since then reduced my contribution to my 401k and put into my trading account.  Using trend definition, higher highs and higher lows, I put my money on those etfs with long-term trend (weekly/monthly) until that trend is broken.  ETFs has been increased so much that it makes that strategy much more easy.  So far it&#039;s very successful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corey,</p>
<p>Very nice post, I realized this a few years back and had since then reduced my contribution to my 401k and put into my trading account.  Using trend definition, higher highs and higher lows, I put my money on those etfs with long-term trend (weekly/monthly) until that trend is broken.  ETFs has been increased so much that it makes that strategy much more easy.  So far it&#8217;s very successful.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://blog.afraidtotrade.com/timing-entries-into-401k/comment-page-1/#comment-160926</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 02:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corey,

Thanks for keeping us updated on Wave 4.  Appears SPX 1075 level near 50% retacement (If it gets that high) will be good area to exit longs and raise cash for Wave 5 move to start.  If we get SPX 1140 area or near 61.8 retacement I will get short.

On a side note did you get a chance to check out breakpointrades.com yet?  I made Matt/Steve aware of your site and that you would be checking breakpointtrades out.  Matt/Steve are like you they do tech. discussion and are great for people like me who work full time.  I cannot watch market live everyday.  They have saved me alot of money on there calls of market trends/directions and explain in detail why etc.

Very much how you do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corey,</p>
<p>Thanks for keeping us updated on Wave 4.  Appears SPX 1075 level near 50% retacement (If it gets that high) will be good area to exit longs and raise cash for Wave 5 move to start.  If we get SPX 1140 area or near 61.8 retacement I will get short.</p>
<p>On a side note did you get a chance to check out breakpointrades.com yet?  I made Matt/Steve aware of your site and that you would be checking breakpointtrades out.  Matt/Steve are like you they do tech. discussion and are great for people like me who work full time.  I cannot watch market live everyday.  They have saved me alot of money on there calls of market trends/directions and explain in detail why etc.</p>
<p>Very much how you do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Rene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 22:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob forgets to examine/mention exits and is focused on buy &amp; hold. Marketsci Blog (&lt;a href=&quot;http://marketsci.wordpress.com/2008/09/21/moving-average-crossovers-debunke&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://marketsci.wordpress.com/2008/09/21/moving-average-crossovers-debunke&lt;/a&gt;d/) makes a good post on the use of simple moving average crossovers versus buy &amp; hold. I use timing in my IRA equivalent (I live i Denmark) - not in an attemt to outperform but to limit downside risk...exiting in 2001, entering in 2003 and exiting i 2007 has saved me a lot of grief. I see no reasons to enter yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob forgets to examine/mention exits and is focused on buy &amp; hold. Marketsci Blog (<a href="http://marketsci.wordpress.com/2008/09/21/moving-average-crossovers-debunke" rel="nofollow">http://marketsci.wordpress.com/2008/09/21/moving-average-crossovers-debunke</a>d/) makes a good post on the use of simple moving average crossovers versus buy &amp; hold. I use timing in my IRA equivalent (I live i Denmark) &#8211; not in an attemt to outperform but to limit downside risk&#8230;exiting in 2001, entering in 2003 and exiting i 2007 has saved me a lot of grief. I see no reasons to enter yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Corey Rosenbloom</title>
		<link>http://blog.afraidtotrade.com/timing-entries-into-401k/comment-page-1/#comment-160721</link>
		<dc:creator>Corey Rosenbloom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon,

Would be a great study from a long or cash perspective.  I&#039;ll try it in TradeStation and pass it on to Rob if I can&#039;t get it to work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon,</p>
<p>Would be a great study from a long or cash perspective.  I&#8217;ll try it in TradeStation and pass it on to Rob if I can&#8217;t get it to work.</p>
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		<title>By: Corey Rosenbloom</title>
		<link>http://blog.afraidtotrade.com/timing-entries-into-401k/comment-page-1/#comment-160720</link>
		<dc:creator>Corey Rosenbloom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

True, and I think Rob&#039;s study addressed that point.  He was looking at timing long only entries over the 11 year period, as in fixed (twice a month) or tactical (each time the 2 RSI triggered).  

I moved into cash early in 2007 but held a few long positions in my retirement account but exited those in May.  I remember a time when I was afraid to write the word &quot;Recession&quot; on my blog and put it in quotation marks because it was unacceptable to use the word in early to mid 2008 - almost like you were a pessimist/heretic so I see where you were coming from.  

I still believe the big 5th wave is yet to come, but that we will have to go through a 4 up rally.  According to EW, a bottom cannot be in, and given the optimism that a bottom is formed, a bottom cannot be in.  

Bottoms are only formed when everyone gives up and decides there is no bottom in store.  Once that pessimistic view becomes mainstream to the TV news and public, then we&#039;ll have our bottom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>True, and I think Rob&#8217;s study addressed that point.  He was looking at timing long only entries over the 11 year period, as in fixed (twice a month) or tactical (each time the 2 RSI triggered).  </p>
<p>I moved into cash early in 2007 but held a few long positions in my retirement account but exited those in May.  I remember a time when I was afraid to write the word &#8220;Recession&#8221; on my blog and put it in quotation marks because it was unacceptable to use the word in early to mid 2008 &#8211; almost like you were a pessimist/heretic so I see where you were coming from.  </p>
<p>I still believe the big 5th wave is yet to come, but that we will have to go through a 4 up rally.  According to EW, a bottom cannot be in, and given the optimism that a bottom is formed, a bottom cannot be in.  </p>
<p>Bottoms are only formed when everyone gives up and decides there is no bottom in store.  Once that pessimistic view becomes mainstream to the TV news and public, then we&#8217;ll have our bottom.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 06:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about a simple study on the 401k account where you go long when the 10 crosses above the 30 and go to cash when the 10 crosses below the 30, since 1998. Add contributions only when you go long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about a simple study on the 401k account where you go long when the 10 crosses above the 30 and go to cash when the 10 crosses below the 30, since 1998. Add contributions only when you go long.</p>
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